UCCSN Board of Regents' Meeting Minutes
March 14-15, 1925

Volume OE - Pages 415-418

                         Reno, Nevada
                        March 14, 1925

The Board of Regents held a special meeting in the Office
President of the University at 2 o'clock Saturday afternoon,
March 14th.  There were present Chairman Pratt, Mrs. Hood, Judge
Talbot and Mrs. Williams of the Regents and President Clark.
Absent:  Regent Frank Williams.

The meeting was called to order by Chairman Pratt who stated the
meeting had been called at the request of Mrs. Hood and Mrs.

In stating the object of the meeting, Mrs. Hood referred to the
Biennial Report of 1921 in which the Regents adopted a building
program, the first building of that program being listed as the
Annex to Manzanita Hall.  Mrs. Hood feels very strongly that
deviation from that program is failure to keep faith with the
people of the Commonwealth.  The Public Service Departments are
comfortably housed in their present quarters.  The Doctors of
the City prefer to have the State Hygienic Laboratory nearer
their offices than is the Campus, since they make several trips
daily to this Laboratory.  Also it is not wise for the sick to
come into contact with the well, which would be the case if the
Public Service building were located in here on the Campus.  Mrs.
Hood suggested that we buy the present Laboratory.  It seems to
Mrs. Hood that the important buildings at this time are the
enlargement of Manzanita Hall, the Dining Hall and the Heating
Plant.  Why take up now the building which is listed in the last
biennium in the third group?  Dr. Albert and Mr. Dinsmore are in
warm, comfortable quarters, as are Mr. Doten and Dr. Records,
while the girls in the Dormitory are cold.  It is up to us to
house the girls in the Dormitory comfortably.  Mrs. Hood wrote
and wired Mr. Williams but has had no reply from him on this
matter.  Mr. Pratt explained that frequently Mr. Williams did
not come to town for his mail for a week at a time.

Mrs. Hood said that Regents may come and Regents may go but it
is worthwhile to conform to a definite building plan; that it is
a great satisfaction to look forward to a building plan and to
know that the respective buildings would come in their turn.  If
we cannot keep faith with the people of the Commonwealth, we can-
not expect the Legislature to keep faith with us and it would be
only right that the Legislature would come back at us.  She
wished her position known in the State and wished the gentlemen
of the Board could change to conform with the adopted building

Judget Talbot inquired if Mrs. Hood understood that there are
threats in the Legislature to remove our 2 cent Permanent Build-
ing Fund tax.  Mrs. Hood said that she had heard of no threats.
The Regents had departed from their approved plan where they
could feel that the Board of Control and the Board of Examiners
were back of them.  She asked the Governor what he thought about
such a departure and he said he could only speak for himself but
that he certainly would think such departure an evidence of bad

Judge Talbot said that if the Legislature does not want us to go
ahead with the Public Service building, he should change his at-
tiude, but that it was a matter of opinion as to which of the
proposed buildings was most important.  He made suggestion that
heat will be needed in any new building and the new Heating
Plant will cost from $60,000 to $70,000 according to the esti-
mates.  The new Heating Plant would take care of the first of
the new buildings to be erected and make allowance for further
new buildings.  He understands that the Hatch building has to
go and then the Chemistry building.  Of the Dormitories, first
the girls' and then the boys' should be enlarged.

President Clark says that space is available back of Lincoln
Hall for a Public Service building and that the erection of such
building at any time would not interfere with the Campus build-
ing plan.

Judge Talbot stated that he would not like to commit himself
years in advance as to the order in which the buildings should
be erected, since conditions were constantly changing.

Dr. Clark said that Mr. Pratt stated to him that in all probabil-
ity the present Dining Hall could be moved, which, being done,
space for the Annex to Manzanita Hall would be immediately avail-
able.  He estimated that the cost of such Annex would be from
$75,000 to $90,000.  That last year 10 or 15 girls were refused
admission to Manzanita Hall because the Hall could not accom-
modate them, and that a few did not come to the University at
all because they could not reside in Manzanita Hall.  Looking
forward to the time when the student body numbers 1100 in any
one University year, we should be prepared to care for 160 to
175 girls, the Annex, therefore, would have to take care of 70
to 85 girls eventually, while for the next year or two it would
probably not need to care for more than 35 to 50 girls.  Within
the decade 1920 to 1930 he believes that State increase in popu-
lation will be slow but steady.  He is inclined to think that
within 5 or 6 or 8 years, we will go up to 600 students from
Nevada and that anywhere from 7 to 10 years we shall have a
semestral enrollment of 1000 right here on the Campus.  Then
we shall need quarters for about 175 girls.  He stated that he
feels keenly that there will be trouble if the time ever comes
when we have to refuse admission to Manzanita Hall to Nevada
girls.  If we adopt the rule that all girls, coming from homes
outside the Reno district, whether from Nevada or from outside
the State, shall reside in Manzanita at least for their first
year in College so that they can be under supervision, we must
have larger Dormitory space.

Mrs. Williams felt very keenly that such requirement should be
made, excepting, of course, girls who lived in sorority houses
or with friends in the City.

President Clark said he would like to submit a proposition for
consideration, provided two things of which he is not sure, could
be granted:

    1.  Can we use University Permanent Construction Funds to
        buy the property on the corner of Sierra and Fifth
        Streets?  He believes that if the Attorney General
        would rule that we can make such use and the Board of
        Examiners would assure their approval, this could be

    2.  Can the Dining Hall be moved?

Granting that these two things may be done, then suppose we buy
the building and lot at Sierra and Fifth Streets for from
$10,000 to $12,000 ($12,000 was their last offer to us).  We
have in sight in our building fund, including the income from
July of 1926, $156,000.  If we include the December income of
1926, then we would have $176,000.  Taking from this the $12,000
would leave us $164,000.  Suppose we say the new Heating Plant
will cost $64,000.  Then we would have available for other con-
struction a balance of $100,000.  In the meantime, by the early
purchase of the building and lot at Sierra and Fifth Streets, we
would save $1750 in rent from the budgeted $2000 for such rent
during 1924 and 1925.  With this amount we could reroof, repaint
all outside woodwork, put in a good door at entrance, repaint
and renovate the entire interior of the building and put it in
first class order.  This, of course, would be a temporary ar-
rangement, but Dr. Albert and Commissioner Dinsmore would be bet-
ter housed than they have ever been.  Then, coming to Doten and
Records.  Both are at present comfortably housed, though neither
has as much room as he would wish to have.  Dr. Records is, per-
haps, rather crowded.  When the Clark building is to be built and
the Hatch Station building is torn down, for one year Doten and
Records would have to be assigned temporary quarters, then they
could move into Stewart Hall and have the entire building (save
the basement, which is the quarters for the Military Department)
until such time as we could erect the Public Service building,
without in any way cramping our funds for necessary University
proper buildings.  I think we could probably build an extension
to Manzanita Hall that would take care of 60 to 80 girls at
from $70,000 to $90,000.  If so, we could then put up, out of
our $100,000 this Annex and leave perhaps $10,000 additional for
the Heating Plant, or a safety fund of $74,000 for our Heating

President Clark has wired Mr. Mackay of the Caloner $750 annual
membership for the Mackay School of Mines and had reply from Mr.
Mackay in which Mr. Mackay said that by a singular coincidence
Mr. W. A. Clark was in his office conferring with him when Pres-
ident Clark's message came and that both Mr. Clark and Mr. Mackay
were well pleased over Mr. Chaloner's Fellowship.  President
Clark feels assured that the two most needed academic buildings
for our Campus (the Mackay Science Hall, already assured, and
the Clark Memorial Library and Social Science building, under
serious present negotiation) are in process of being cared for
by Mr. Mackay and Mr. Clark.

The President suggested that it was possible that eventually the
State would take over the State Hygienic Laboratory.  This would
be more possible were an aggressive young man to Head the State
Board of Health.  Or, they might decide that Mr. Dinsmore's work
should be taken over by the State.  Even Dr. Record's Division
might be made a State Department.  Suppose that only Mr. Dins-
more's work were so taken over, then when we came to erect the
Public Service building on our Campus in anywhere from 6 to 10
years, provision would have to be made but for 3 Public Service
Departments.  Should Dr. Albert's work also be taken over -- and
there is a bill proposing an enlarged and extended State Board of
Health now pending in the Legislature which might or might not
eventually, with a younger man heading the State Board of Health,
make probable such a change -- then we would have to provide for
but two Public Service Departments.  Should the State Veterinary
Control Service also during this period be transferred to State
jurisdiction, then we would have to provide for but one Public
Service Division, Mr. Doten's Agricultural Experiment Station,
which is an integral part of the University.  With any such les-
sening of Departments we should be called upon for a correspond-
ing lower cost to the University for Public Service building

Suppose we had purchased the lot at Sierra and Fifth.  When the
time came for us to erect the Public Service building, there
would remain open for us 3 courses:  (1)  Dispose of the property
to the State, especially desirable if the widened State Board of
Health should have taken over 1 to 3 of these Public Service De-
partments and should need a building plot on which to house its
enlarged State Board of Health; (2)  Building on that lot our
new Public Service building; (3)  Simply dispose of it to any
buyer in case we decided to build on the University Campus what-
ever Public Service building were then needed.  By all present
business indications that Fifth and Sierra property in 6 or 8
years would certainly bring in at least as much as we would have
to pay for it and easily it might possibly bring a considerably
larger sum.  Already important business use is being made of
Sierra Street property within a block of this property in both
directions.  The property is excellently located and of right
size for a large apartment house.

General discussion followed all the above suggestions.  Mrs.
Williams and Mrs. Hood are quite convinced that the most pressing
need on the Campus is an extension of the Girls' Dormitory so the
young women in their first year of College life should be under
the supervision of an older woman.  Judge Talbot said it was un-
doubltedly easier for the boys to take care of themselves.  Mr.
Pratt raised question of any need of Dormitory expansion since
some larger eastern institutions do not favor such a plan.  He
also questioned whether new Dormitories might not be built on
bond issues and paid out of Dormitory incomes as was being done
in some other places.  President Clark suggested that such a plan
should be inadvisable here because it would pledge all Dormitory
net income for probably 20 or 30 years, whereas, if Dormitories
were built from gift or State Building Funds, any Dormitory net
income would add to the general funds so necessary for general
maintenance and operation.

Mr. Pratt asked if there is anything to do before the submission
of plans at the next general meeting of the Board.

Mrs. Hood replied that the action of the Board at its former
meeting could be rescinded.

Mr. Pratt inquired if that would be courteous when the man who
made the motion was absent.

Mrs. Hood replied that it would be parliamentary and therefore
courteous.  That if this action of the Board were rescinded, we
could feel secure in our rate when on next Thursday the general
tax levy bill came up before the Legislature.

Mrs. Williams said that she felt confident that Mr. Williams'
feelings would not be hurt if such action were taken, or, at
least, she felt reasonably certain that he would not feel hurt
at such action.

Judge Talbot said it didn't matter whether Mr. Williams were
here or not, if he could be shown that any considerable number
Nevada girls were being turned away from Manzanita Hall, he
would be included to change his attitude, but that, so far as
he could learn, such had not yet been the case.  It was his opin-
ion that the Public Service building should be erected now, but
if the Legislature exprssed itself against the erection of the
Public Service building at this time, he would not be in favor
of erecting it now.

After some further discussion, Mr. Pratt expressed himself as
willing to make motion for recommendation of the motion to build
the Public Service building at the next meeting of the Board,
provided that a full Board were present.  The Secretary was in-
structed to call the next meeting of the Board for 9 o'clock
Tuesday morning, March 31st, with understanding that Mr. Pratt
would get the word to Mr. Williams and thus insure his presence
at this meeting, and with further understanding that if Mr.
Williams definitely prefers either Saturday, March 28th, or Mon-
day, March 30, rather than Tuesday, March 31st, the day of his
preference shall be the day for the meeting.

Chairman Pratt reported the sale of the Rousseau estate for
$4500, $2000 of which was cash and balance on time.

                             Walter E. Pratt

Carolyn M. Beckwith